FAQs about WHN? taken from various interviews:
What other bands are you/have
you been in?
* = has a record, demo, CD, or comp track out
ROBERT
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DEVON
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Past
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Past
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Better Than
Your Hand*
Brutal Gardeners Multiple Choice* Fuckface* Ancient Chinese Penis Brainbloodvolume* Youth Riot * All You Can Eat* |
- Tidy Bowl
and the Rubberheads |
Present
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Present
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______________________________________________________________________________________________________________
MAX
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CRAIGUMS
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Past
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Past
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Demented (not
the funk/metal band)
Procrastination* Backslide* Bombs Of Death* Sirota* Evolved To Obliteration* Meat Shits* Spazz* Charlse Bronson* Don't Be Mistaken xFULLFLEDGEx * Scholastic Deth* Charm Stockholm Syndrone Mindless Mutant Capitalist Caualties* Plutocracy* xDISINEBRIATEDx |
- Chu Chi Nut Nut & the
Pine Cone Express*
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Present
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Present
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F.U.N. * |
Green
Angel*
Rocket Queens F.U.N. * All You Can Eat* Love Songs* Virgin Killers Colbom * Conquest For Death * This Is My Fist* |
Reading the WHN? FAQ page, I think
you're bored answering the same questions everyday. Is it true?
It's not that we are bored with people asking us questions, but when it is
the same questions again and again it is hard to stay motivated to communicate
with
people through the band. By adding an FAQ page we are skipping the boring
parts and getting to good, serious questions. We get no sense of who we are
talking
to if we are being asked the same boring question: Who is in the band and
what do they play? (If I am reading an interview I always just skip over
that part
anyway...) But when we get more involved questions the interview becomes
more of an exchange. I can tell more about the person from their questions
if they
are more thoughtful questions.
Who is in the band and what do
they play?
Devon sings and writes the lyrics, Max plays drums, Robert plays the bass, and
Craigums plays guitar.
How/when did the band start?
Devon and Max have known each other for a long time from going to shows, and
for almost as long they wanted to start a band inspired by the early 80's European
scene. In 1998 they asked Chuck (from Good Riddance) and me to play bass and
guitar, respectively. We wrote much of what is now the first 7in and called
ourselves Don't Be Mistaken. But Chuck had a hard time making it to practice
and when he failed to make it to our first show we recruited Robert and changed
the name to What Happens Next?, partly as homage to Ill Repute, partly in response
to the state of our band at that point. Our goal was to play fast, politically-charged
music which was becoming less common in the San Francisco Bay Area.
Are you a straight-edge band?
No. Though some members of the band as individuals identify themselves as SxE,
I think as a whole we associate people with what's in their mind rather than
what they put in their bodies.
What are your hobbies and influences?
Devon is influenced by toys, comics and bad heavy metal.
Max likes all things DIY and thrash. His label - 625 Productions - has put out
about 20 releases a year by bands from all over the world, so I'd say they provide
much of his inspiration and influence. He also loves old bands like Heibel,
Heresy, Ripcord, etc…
When not taking foreign bands around the country in his van, Robert hangs out
with his wife and listens almost exclusively to ZZ Top and Willie Nelson.
I (Craigums) like to study sound and listen to Weird Al. I put up my Required
Listening List here,
if you're interested..
Who writes the lyrics?
Devon writes all the lyrics. He has an uncanny way of transforming dialogues
into lyrics, which end up being some of our songs. The rest of the songs are
usually ideas that roll around in Devon's head until we go into the studio and
he needs to sing. While we are recording the music in one room it is not uncommon
to see him sitting in another room surrounded by stacks of scribbled-on papers
and large books on the French Foreign Legion or travel guides.
What do you have to say about
bandana thrash? Do you think that it is silly now? And what about sale bandanas?
In Brazil some people like bandanas and you? for me is the same thing that Victory
sale them clock with X or sale bands marcs.
It's a bit silly how seriously people accepted the term "bandana thrash". It
was really just a joking way to describe some of our favorite bands from the
mid to late 80's. As at that time so many bands from all over the world had
adopted wearing bandanas and flannels. We don't sell bandanas at shows, we just
wear them sometimes (it keeps the sweat out of our eyes and off our guitars!)
...blah blah blah 625 Productions
blah blah Max blah blah blah...?
Go here: 625thrash.com
I heard a record of WHN? was released
in Spain with a free bandana. What do you think about that?
There is a WHN? release in Spain that had a limited version that came with a
"bandana." It was the split with the seminal HHH side-project, OvertHHHrow.
The guy that put it out is a good guy who really likes WHN? However, he is off
the mark a little from how we operate. I like when people make an artistic project
out of a record. Like how Martin from Lengua Armada makes all sorts of special
versions of his releases. He does them one at a time and puts his energy and
heart into them. A record can be so much more than music. It can be literature,
pictures, ideas, artwork, creativity… Of course they will end up being limited
releases because how many Tear It Up records can Ernie from LIFES HALT glue
broken glass to before he either runs out of glass, glue, energy or blood? Those
records becoming collectible is just a side effect. However, when labels start
producing records with different color covers just for the sake of making that
record collectible - not for art's sake - I think that is unnecessary.
What are your plans for the future?
or as is sometimes phrased What
happens next?
Have fun and thrive for honesty and consistency in our lives. The strongest
bond among us is our enthusiasm and motivation. It may not always be with hardcore
music, but we seem to always be riding this wave of energy and enthusiasm for
things other than watching TV or 'growing old.'
Do you have any releases planned?
Probably.
(The following is an interview from 1999)
Me: How long has What Happens Next been a band?
Robert: What Happens Next started in October of 1998. We recorded our first seven- inch on my first wedding anniversary.
Me: Why is What Happens Next a straightedge band?
Robert: We’re not.
Devon: We’re not really a straightedge band, but several of our members are straightedge. There is some imagery of straightedge on our records, but it is not representative of the whole band.
Robert: The straightedge imagery that appears on the records appears there because there are members of the band who are straightedge. That imagery is associated with them as opposed to being associated with the band. It’s not like there’s two straightedge guys and a couple of drunks or anything, that is just an aspect of people in the band as opposed to an aspect of the band.
Me: What members of the band are straightedge?
Devon: I think that it’s pretty obvious, but I don’t really think that it’s necessary to say. Also though, everybody in the band is really in control with anything they put in their body. There is just a lot of consciousness as far as what we do.
Me: What is the hardcore scene like in Northern California?
Robert: It’s really small.
Devon: And it’s also kind of divided. There’s a hardcore scene that is quite bigger and more known in some circles which is more of a New York style or really aggressive style, but it has nothing to do with what we really partake in.
Robert: I should clarify when I say it’s small. When I think of a hardcore scene I think of a show like tonight and bands like Life’s Halt, and there aren’t that many northern California bands that have that kind of image and that kind of attitude. I’m sure that there are a lot that I don’t know about, but the hardcore that is visible up there is tough guy ‘chuga chuga,’ or even if the music isn’t ‘chuga chuga,’ the attitude is, and that’s just bad.
Me: Why do you guys wear the flipped up hats, bandanas and flannels?
Devon: Originally it was just kind of nostalgia because when Max and I formed the band, we were really influenced by a lot of European style hardcore bands like Combat Not Conform, Larm, Heibel, Heresy, and a lot of Italian, Berlin, British, Dutch, and Belgian bands that saw the style of flannels and bandanas and stuff that is kind of a more southern California imagery and sometimes gang associated, but they just saw it as "that is what American hardcore is like," and its kind of their interpretation of American Hardcore. We just love those bands so much that we’re kind of like emulating them out of nostalgia and respect. It’s a fun thing, and I think that we actually, not really consciously, but we kind of toned down the---
Robert: I think it got to the point where people were like, "Oh What Happens Next, they’re the band that wears the bandanas," or "Oh What Happens Next they’re the band that wears the flipped up hats and bla bla bla." I mean that was fun and is fun, but that’s not what the band is.
Devon: And the thing too is that that’s how I dressed in High School. I have this old shirt from like 1985, an army jacket with all the bands written with permanent ink marker on the back, and in some of our early records that’s what I’m wearing and its literally the stuff I wore in high school. It’s really about being an old nostalgic dork. I was never really in a band like What Happens Next in High School. It’s kind of actualizing something that I really wanted to have done so long ago.
Me: I heard you guys are really busy, could you explain that a little bit?
Robert: I’m married but don’t have any kids, when I’m at home I work a shitload, I roadie for other bands, and I am in another full time band. Between those two bands, traveling with other bands, and working, I get maybe one night every two or three weeks to hang out with my wife, who also tours with bands as well. In fact I get to see her for the first time in a couple of months on Monday, and I am kind of excited about it.
Devon: Yeah, and I just work at a record label and a toy store, and I guess that’s it.
Robert: Devon puts in a solid 60 hours a week every week at least.
Devon: And then I spend a lot of time with my girlfriend Sibbion. It’s our eight-month anniversary today.
Robert: Max and Craig both have full time jobs. Max is in a bunch of bands---
Devon: And does a record label, a zine, writes for Maximum Rock and Roll, has a girlfriend, skates, and has a job. Craig has a billion bands, works all the time, travels---
Robert: And is building a studio in his garage.
Me: With all that stuff you guys probably don’t have much time to tour.
Robert: We took one trip to Chicago earlier this year, and we went to Japan earlier this year. That’s the extent of our touring other than trips to Los Angeles.
Devon: I’d say that we probably, have we only played like 25 to 30 shows?
Robert: Maybe. Close to half the shows we ever played are the ones in Japan.
Me: With how busy you guys are, how do you get the time to write so many songs?
Devon: I would say that particularly Max has a very energetic personality. He’s coming up with a lot of riffs, and then Craig and Robert come up with stuff. All of us tend to read a lot. I read a lot to get inspirations for lyrics so when we meet for practice it’s pretty productive. We also spend a lot of time just talking, catching up, and making plans. I don’t know, we just write a lot of songs and we keep recording with our friend Bart who we all recorded with in all of our other bands and know really well. We’ve never recorded with anybody else so when we go and record stuff it’s really easy to do all the songs. I don’t know. That’s just the pace at which we write.
Robert: I guess we’re lucky because songs come really quick. We can go to practice and come out of practice with eight songs, new songs written in one night.
Devon: It’s just the combination of personalities. An old band that I was in for about five years only wrote 33 songs in that whole time. The pace kind of amazes me, but not really because it’s so natural.
Robert: You’re not even there when we write the songs.
Devon: Actually I happen to be so busy that they give me tapes of the music.
Robert: We write songs, give Devon tapes, and Devon puts words to them---
Devon: And then I come to the practices before we record, tour, or play shows. That process will change because I’m trying to get a regular life.
Me: With so many songs how do you choose which ones to play live?
Robert: The ones we like best.
Devon: All of us have different favorite songs.
Me: Why does What Happens Next sing some of their songs in different languages?
Devon: Like I said earlier, we’ve always been inspired by European bands. We’re all fans of the international hardcore scene and love bands everywhere. We write a lot of our songs in different languages to make our message more understandable or kind of transcend boundaries set by languages so it’s not just sound and image. There’s a message and a meaning behind what we’re saying. So many bands internationally, whether they’re from South America, Asia, or Europe, sing in English to make this medium, and it kind of looses some spirituality and some heart. Americans have it easy. All they need to do is speak English and then go to other countries and everybody in Japan is taught some English in school and in Europe people speak seven languages. I think all of us want to at least try.
Max: Also I think the parameters of how we look at the scene is a world community. Our influences aren’t just American bands or bands that that sing in English. A lot of the bands that we’re influenced by sing in Italian and Japanese. So when it came down to it, it almost seemed natural, and I think it’s a challenge too. And after we did it, just the first couple times, we actually met kids from the Philippines that were just like, "That’s so awesome, that’s the first band that we’ve heard sing in that, and we got the message." They got it.
Devon: Sometimes they’ll laugh at our pronunciation, or our choice of words.
Max: We spell shit totally wrong, we have errors galore, but we’re trying.
Devon: And a lot of bands from those other countries do the same thing, they’re singing in English, and it’s bad English, but they’re trying too. Why not just turn it around? It was really particularly rewarding in Japan because our Japanese songs went over, and those kids knew what we were trying to say instead of just singing along these words that they just heard. They actually knew what we were saying.
Me: Does everybody in What Happens Next skate?
Devon: Max is the primary proponent, and then I used to skate a lot in high school. Basically I’m just about grinding and doing backside bonelesses.
Max: Craig skates actually. There are a whole slew of new cement parks. One just opened up in Pleasanton where Craig’s from so I’ve been taking BART out there and it’s awesome, perfect blend of street, bowls, a snakerun, some handrails and stuff like that. So Craig and I have been going out there and Craig has just been getting back into just skating ditches and pools and stuff like that. It’s been fun.
Me: Max, what do you think of the hardcore scene back in Northern California?
Max: It’s good, it’s always been strong, but I think we’re also extremely pampered up there. We have this club that we don’t ever think is going to go away, we have Gilman, and a lot of people don’t see the internal struggles that have happened there, and haven’t seen how hard it was. It all really comes back to Timmy O’Hannon, and our song ‘Bobo.’ As much as people hate MRR, he started Epicenter and let it go to other people’s hands, he started Blacklist and let it go to other people’s hands, he started Gilman and let it go to other people’s hands, and those things are still there and that’s why all these bands from the Midwest that didn’t have a scene, moved out to Oakland and San Francisco. So there’s this infrastructure for a scene, but I feel like it’s almost not being utilized. There are all these bands up there, but there’s not this booming, positive, DIY, politically conscious but aggressive and energetic thing. It’s either fourth generation Neurosis kind of crusty metal, or garage rock bar rock or something. It’s weird. There are no Esperanzas up there, and there’s no Life’s Halt. I’m hoping there’s going to be. I see the potential that there’s going to be because there are enough places to play, but there’s just not. So it’s good and bad. Tons of kids are coming out to shows now, so it’s good because we definitely had some bad years where people weren’t coming out to shows in the early 90s.
Me: What effect do you want What Happens Next to have on people?
Devon: I want the effect we have to be the same effect that the bands that played tonight had on us, and that had on everybody. When the bands play I’m just like, "Oh geez, I was going to say something like that." They play a riff, go off, jump or do something that’s so intrinsically awesome, so much fun, so cool, or say something, and that’s the reason we’re playing with them. It’s like we’re in this together because we share this bond and this energy. I don’t know how to say it. Like tonight, every band was so inspiring. Just to be inspired and challenge each other in a positive way. Like Life’s Halt in essence, I can’t explain it, just that feeling, that feeling of being alive and having friends.
Max: On a personal tip, it has allowed us to meet so many great people. So when you say effect on other people, I’m too much of a pessimist and a self-critic to think that there’s some guy or some band that we’re going to inspire or anything like that. I don’t think of that, I think of the fact that I’m in this band where I get to come to LA and I get to see a show like this, or go to Japan and see all these fucking awesome bands that are so inspirational. What they inspire me to do is what I’m doing at that show. To play, play with them, and play the same style. It’s almost on a personal trip for me of just meeting all these people and just being part of something that’s bigger than all of us, this community. It’s just fucking awesome. It’s kind of a personal thing at least for me. I can say when we first started, the whole thing was kind of looking back to the late 80s European scene, Italian bands, Dutch bands, or the old 80s thrash. Our intent back then was look how negative everything got now, but back then you could play fast, have energy, do all this stuff, but you could be positive, be straightedge and not have to play formula 88, do all this stuff, and look back at these bands, but now that’s over. Seeing bands like Life’s Halt and shit like that is just inspirational.
Me: What do you guys think is the biggest problem in the hardcore scene?
Devon: Lack of personal responsibility particularly in combination with loosing venues. It’s so rare that you’ll have a consistent all ages venue to go to, and sometimes that really might be equated with stagnancy. I feared at one point that Gilman Street would become stagnant but continue to exist. Now it’s getting harder and harder to get an all ages space because people are always breaking shit.
Max: There’s a lot of negativity that the scene could do without, but who am I to say, that is just my personal opinion. Not against any particular bands but like Devon was saying, every fucking show there’s somebody complaining about something and that they have no idea what it took, like what it took to have this show. And all it takes is one person to fuck it up, and there is that one person in a lot of shows. I can’t count how many times I’ve seen a show get destroyed over one person and that’s always disheartening because it feels like you’re just digging in water, but you just keep on digging.